One up 2 by 2 on a Cycle
By Todd PerryOne up 2 by 2 on a Cycle
What the heck does that mean? To most if not all new people on the internet it means nothing, YET. However to the Very Many that have been online for at least 6 months Know exactly what it means, but still they don’t admit they are scamming others. All they see is the dollars and not customer. If your new to the internet or been online for a while and want to know the truth, i will fill you in.
One up: You work you butt off to bring members into a program just to give them up to the person that brought you into the program ( Your Upline) and they make the money. Now not all the members you bring in go to Your Upline just every other person you work your butt off to bring in goes to them. This is a variation of the Aussie Two Up which has been a very flawed system from the start. “The Aussie Two-Up. Or One-up, or Three-Up, or any variation of ups. There’s no way to fix this unredeemable, corrupt and historically failed system of compensation, so any variation of it should be avoided. So with virtually a 100% long term failure rate throughout MLM history, why has the 2-Up refused to die? In fact, it seems to be experiencing a mild resurgence of late. The reason is twofold:
1) It actually rolls up tons of cash to the company;
2) It appears to roll up tons of cash to the distributor – on paper.” (Quote of Len Clements)
Examples: TotalTakeOver AKA TTO, All In One Profits aka AIOP both use an up system.
2 by 2: This is how they refer to a money matrix. A money matrix is the same thing as a ponzi , cycler, or pyramid scheme. A Matrix Scheme is a business model involving the exchange of money for a certain product with a side bonus of being added to a waiting list for a product of greater value than the amount given.
“The operation of matrix schemes varies, though they often operate similar to pyramid or Ponzi schemes. Some of the former participants of these schemes consider them to be a form of confidence trick, although others are happy with their purchase. To move upward in the list, a person must wait for new members to join or refer a certain number of people to the list.
This is accomplished through purchasing a token product of marginal value: usually e-books, cell phone boosters, screen savers, or other software CDs/DVDs. When a pre-defined number of people have purchased the token product, the person currently at the top of the list receives their reward item, and the next person in the list moves to the top. The rewards for those at the top of the matrix list are usually high-demand consumer electronics, such as portable digital audio players, high-definition television sets, laptop computers, and cellular phones. Reaching the point on the list where one receives the expensive goods is termed “cycling”.”(found on wikipedia)
Now they are being used in advertising and selling what they call ad packs. Ad packs include banners,text ads, and in some cases traffic to your website. These programs are not always 2×2, they can be whatever the owner wants them to be to get the most money out of the ones that sign up. None of these programs pay out to their member for very long due to the lack of NEW MEMBERS (new money) constantly coming in. Members may get at most 35% of what their referrals pay in, and do not get that for very long. Once people wake up and see this type scheme stops paying once new members (new money) stops coming in and the program disappears owing 1000’s of dollars, or changes it’s name and starts all over.
Many people online from Traffic Exchange owners, Mailer owners, and even the affiliate marketer believe that these programs are legit and will continue to support them because they are new and/or naive. It does not take long for some to become as greedy as the owners that put the scams out.
Examples: GlobalAdShare aka GAS, GlobalFortune11, FiveDollarFunnel, TotalTakeOver AKA TTO, All In One Profits aka AIOP, DoubleDown2x2
CYCLE: These are better know as Cyclers. Cyclers are based on money in and nothing else. Once the new money stops coming in the program is defunct (dead). Then the owner starts a new one and takes more money from the new and naive. The willing to scam others follow right along and bring more new and naive members to take advantage of. These programs are NO different than money laundering ponzi schemes.
Examples: GlobalAdShare aka GAS, GlobalFortune11, DoubleDown2x2
Ponzi Scheme defined in simple terms: Rob (Steal) from Peter to pay Paul. Money you put in goes to pay members that came in before you. No new money in, no one gets paid. Adding a subscription to any of these types of programs does not make them any better than without a subscription. Either way they will fail in time and you will lose out on more than money. You are putting your reputation on the line when promoting these Ponzi schemes.
These Ponzi Schemes can in NO way be compared to Traffic Exchanges, Mailers, Grocery Stores or any offline business. Why because Traffic Exchanges, Mailers, Grocery Stores or any offline business rely on repeat customers, not the constant influx of only new customers like the ponzi schemes do.
Regards,
Todd
Scams are nothing new, they have been perpetrated throughout time and now with the world getting smaller criminals are reaching out to potential victims worldwide at the speed of light.
People who knowingly participate in these shams should realize they border on or are a growing part of the criminal element that will be sought after and dealt with eventually.
There is no reason to be taken in by these people. Blinders make you dumb. A bit of research makes you smart enough to run not walk from these offers.
Hello Todd,
Very nice article. Glad to see we are on the same page about this.
As for this part :
“Many people online from Traffic Exchange owners, Mailer owners, and even the affiliate marketer believe that these programs are legit and will continue to support them because they are new and/or naive”
It frustrates me to the utmost to have realized many of those people who promote such scams then jump to the next when they it collaspsing, they knew from the start it was a scam. They use all kinds of excuses to justify their actions. I have considered leaving some TEs because their owners are definitely scammers, but I wonder how many TEs would remain if I started doing that. I’ve been struggling with that idea for some time.
Thanks!
Philippe
Philippe,
Leaving a TE because you think the owner may or may not be a scammer should not be the answer.
You still can use that TE to benefit you and not the owner. By doing this you do not decrease your advertising.
I am one of those who fell into that trap but I HAVE learned my lesson and got out.
It’s too bad many others will only be disappointed when the programs fall apart.
You know Philippe, it is equally hard for a TE owner to stay solvent yet avoid the game players who support questionable business choices. The fortunate part is there are a very large number of good honest owners out there. You may have to search a wee bit wider to build your list that you will feel comfortable supporting.
Good luck!
It all comes down to this as Fran said when joining a program do the research first and then you will not get sucked in bottom line.
I can’t believe i missed this one. cashbot.ca also works on a variation of the Aussie Two up system and it says so on the front page.
Work you butt of to bring people in just to give the money up to your sponsor.
Quote from their site ” For the sole purpose of our example, let suppose that you can signup 5 friends. Your friend #1 will pay you back your $4.99 fee instantly and directly to you. Then your friend #2 will pay your sponsor. Then your friends #3 and #4 will pay you again. So far, it does not cost you a cent to be a member and you just made $10. Your friend #5 will pay your sponsor’s sponsor and then you get paid 3 times, then 4 and 5 times and it grows like that forever… After a very short time, no more effort required…”
Now all of this is for ebooks that you can find online for free.
Very nice Article, I even +1 it for you and shared it with my circles so they too can learn from it. Thanks again for sharing the info